posted by WhatsupWheaton Simon at
5/18/2006 09:33:00 PM
This is great news. He's staying at Highbury whilst the rest of your team move to cashburden grove.
By Rich Hughes, at 9:39 PM
Oh Crap! Leave me alone!
By Simon Burke, at 9:40 PM
Official! Henry stays, press conference going on now. If only United can keep someone comparable like.. er Ruud.
By Simon Burke, at 9:35 AM
Typical Simon. More worried about what United are doing than Arsenal. Were you watching MUTV on Wed night instead of ESPN?
By TheBusbyBoy, at 10:26 AM
I just thought now would be a good time to revisit an old debate of who would you rather have Henry? or Ruud? Jeesh - anyone would think I have an alterior motive or am mocking Ruud but its simply not true, I love Ruud and wish him well in La Championnat or Eredivisie or MLS.
By Simon Burke, at 10:29 AM
Hehe. Actually, heres something I'd like your opinion on. Henry will be 29 this Summer. Are his best years behind him? Is there any part of you that thinks, if we can get something crazy like 30+ million for him, we should cash in now?
By TheBusbyBoy, at 10:34 AM
Ruud is going to look great in a Red Bull NY kit!
By George Cuddy, at 10:47 AM
Ronnie Rumour says he's comming to Liverpool. Good article in one of the broadsheets (inependent?) on him falling out with Ronaldo and being shown the door.
By Rich Hughes, at 10:49 AM
Ya, I read those reports a while ago. He apparently told Ronaldo to "go talk to his dad" during a row between them at training. This was meant as a jibe towards Queiroz who is rumoured to give Ronaldo preferential treatment because he is Portuguese. It was made worse of course by the fact that Ronaldo's father died this year.Ruud will be 30 on the first of July. He is obviously still a deadly striker though and has a few good years in him. He has lost a yard though and, never being that fast to begin with, is now completely dependent on the service he gets from others.The partnership with Rooney was a good one though and it would be nice to be able to just concentrate on sorting midfield out this Summer without worrying about having to replace RVN. If we do sell Ruud though, which looks inevitable, I would wait until after the World Cup. With good service from Robben and co I could see him bang in quite a few in Germany and his value should rise about the 10 million currently being mentioned.Saha's fitness cannot be relied upon but I could see Ferguson pushing Scholes forward(assuming he is ok now) into the hole behind Rooney and bringing in two new midfielders. This would have the added benefit of lessening the running we need to get out of Scholes and add a few years to his career.Its possible we will start next season with Rooney, Saha, Scholes and Rossi as strikers.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 11:39 AM
Jonno, You really see Scholes giving you much next season?
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 12:11 PM
Not sure. He will be 32 in November. I think he is a clever enough player though that he can do well for a few more years. Especially in the kind of position where Cantona played for us in the hole behind the main striker. Not running around midfield. Remember, he was a striker in the youth team, reserves and when he first broke into the first team. I would usually say something about him having good vision and being more suited to this role again now but with his eye problems that's a bit of a can of worms for me to be opening.If we were Chelsea we would be going out to sign two-centre midfielders and a striker this Summer. No doubt about that. We can't afford all 3 though so all I am saying is I think we might be better off pushing Scholes back up as a withdrawn striker behind Rooney and investing the cash in two centre-midfielders which I don't think anybody will disagree we need.Not much point in investing a load of cash in another top striker if we don't have the midfield to adequately supply him.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 12:29 PM
Unfortunately, I think you've seen the best of him, but he might surprise us. You'll be doing well to get one quality central midfielder, let alone two this summer. Lets hope Fergie buys a diouf post Germany... :)
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 12:44 PM
Fergie's post Keane sucession plans are now on their Nth failed itteration.
By Rich Hughes, at 12:51 PM
Keano will be in his armchair with his pipe and slippers before they replace him.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 1:08 PM
That's funny. When he played you all reckoned he was just a thug who went around breaking peoples legs. If that's all he ever did for us then he should be pretty easy to replace.I am interested to see who Liverpool sign as partners for the Stick Insect (have to give Ian credit for that one) and Mr Blobby.Whoever it is, you'll have to get him integrated quickly in time for the CL qualifying rounds.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 1:15 PM
Ohh - revisionist!from the email archive..."Let me start by saying a big fan of the way Roy Keane plays the game. I'm not to big on him as a person, but he's a world class midfielder."
By Rich Hughes, at 1:20 PM
Hmmm, Henry at "29" (he is 28) being questioned as to his "best years being behind him" yet Ruud, at 30 is "obviously still a deadly striker" and Scholes at 32 is a "clever enough player to do well for a few more years"...Sounds like Red coloured glasses to me. Who was it lead the league in scoring and won a 3rd FWA Player of the Year Award - which no one has ever done? I have been reading posts on the Arsenal list about supporters with Spurs friends saying they are glad TH is staying in England... because he brings quality to the game. I will eat my shorts if I ever see that said about Ruud. Scholes I have always liked, he is a class English player, but Ruud... what a prat.
By Patrick Devitt, at 2:37 PM
haha What kind of sad bastard goes dragging up old emails like that? Get a life :-)
By TheBusbyBoy, at 2:37 PM
heh heh. I think we should ban the dragging up of old emails!
By Patrick Devitt, at 2:49 PM
FWA award is cack, its the one voted for by the players that they all want.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 2:57 PM
What is it your always telling us Jonno, we should worry about our own team, not what Man U are doing. Speculating on the Liverpool Strikeforce - I dunno.... :)
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 2:59 PM
Actually no Patrick, I take it you were never very good at reading comprehension exercises at school:1)I said "Henry will be 29 this Summer". As you brilliantly pointed out, that would indeed make him 28 right now. If you are going to try to correct somebody make sure you read what they write first.2)Ruud's best years are also obviously behind him. I thought that was obvious from "He has lost a yard though and, never being that fast to begin with, is now completely dependent on the service he gets from others."So yes, he is still a deadly striker but his best years are behind him. Do you disagree? If so, on which front?3)I think its also pretty clear that Scholes' best years are behind him. I didn't think that even warranted saying. He is a clever player though and, exactly like I said, I think he can do well for a couple of more years.4)So you think its a rediculous, "red coloured glasses" statement to say that Henry's best years might be behind him? As with Ruud and Scholes, that wouldn't make him shit. He would still be a great player for a few years. The question was, whether Arsenal might consider buying low and selling high or will they ride him to the end and get nothing for him liek Bergkamp. It was just a question directed at Simon anyway. If the answer is we would prefer to keep him then thats fine. We faced the same choice with Keane a few years ago and I am glad we kept him until the end rather than sell him at 29 for a lot of money.Sounds like you still have PMS (Paris Moaning Syndrome) over Wednesday. Tough shit. You lost. Sick of listening to you lot moaning about the ref. The better team won and, if the ref had been perfect, you would have been 1-0 down early and Eboue would have been sent off for diving when he was already on a yellow. So that would have left you 1-0 down with 10 men instead of 1-0 up with 10 men.Don't go jumping down my throat because I raised a perfectly valid point about Henry:"Henry will be 29 this Summer. Are his best years behind him? Is there any part of you that thinks, if we can get something crazy like 30+ million for him, we should cash in now?"
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:01 PM
Good point. TH has only won 2 PFA awards. Still more than anyone else.
By Patrick Devitt, at 3:03 PM
John,Never meant to jump down your throat. Jeesh.
By Patrick Devitt, at 3:07 PM
TH is on a downward curve, you've seen the best of him.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 3:11 PM
Regarding "PMS" -- whatever, fairly lame attempt at humor there (I know you can do better John!) I never moaned about the ref, in fact I think all of my comments regarding the final were that the ref did not have an effect on the outcome and I was damned happy we made it to that stage at all. It was sad Jens got sent off, but mainly in the sense that it ruined what could have been a classic final, not that it wasn't deserved.Just be glad TH is staying in the Prem, you won't see class like that at Man U or Chelsea.I wonder if I might be able to get a gig at the Sun - apparently I have a talent for twisting quotes to my own purposes.
By Patrick Devitt, at 3:16 PM
Wow, I vanish for a few hours and it all goes mad. Okay good question: Easily answerable. We keep him and its the right decision. He is the best in his position, he is right now the best in his position and next year he will be too. By the time he is 33 he may not which is where it gets interesting. But for me I look forward to August a lot more knowing he will be there than if he wasnt, the team revolves him right now and the fans LOVE him. Henry committed is the best thing Arsenal can ever have and he is committed and its shown since January. Sometimes you have something in history that yuo dont give away, you keep it because its like the heart of the club. As for his best years are behind him, well eventually they will be but his great asset is pace, he may slow down but he will still be faster than Ruud was at his peak so i forsee 4 excellent years from Henry. If Scholes and Ruud still have excellence to give (i am not sure i agree on Scholes) then Henry has even more excellence to give and I wouldnt have sold him for 50 million because an Henry on fire cant be replaced. Roll on August and seeing him lead the team out in a new stadium with this contract nightmare behind us all.
By Simon Burke, at 3:17 PM
If you do get that gig at the Sun, Simon will be yuor number one reader. Thats where he gets all his football knowledge from.I was actually quite proud of PMS :-(We've got some class in Rooney. Not too worried there especially has his best years are not behind him.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:19 PM
Sepp Blatter complained about the ref, so did the Arsenal fans, so did the neutrals, the ref himself has corrected himself and the Barcelona fans complained about him too. Verdict: Crap ref.See comments here:http://www.football365.com/opinion/andy_gray/story_185704.shtml
By Simon Burke, at 3:19 PM
PMS - Paris moaning syndrome - that is too funny Jonno, and sooo true.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 3:19 PM
The funniest person in all this whining at the ref business was Henry. He somehow failed to mention Eboue getting shot by that sniper.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 3:22 PM
My two penneth -'qoute mining' is where you take words out of context.Rooney is class, but his knees will give way by age 27.Still waiting on my Yernited pics. - top secret, might have an exclusive on Monday.
By Rich Hughes, at 3:23 PM
Good answer Simon. Like I said, I could take your answer and substitute a 29 year old Keano in there perfectly.One small point. I never predicted "excellence" for Scholes. We just need new midfielders more than strikers and moving Scholes up might allow us to get that dept right once and for all. 9or fuck it up again...either or)
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:24 PM
Simon Burke, Said.....Sepp Blatter complained about the ref, so did the Arsenal fans, so did the neutrals, the ref himself has corrected himself and the Barcelona fans complained about him too. Verdict: Crap ref and no victory parade in LondonSee comments here:http://www.football365.com/opinion/andy_gray/story_185704
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 3:25 PM
Chelsea had one....and most of those were Arsenal fans a few years ago.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:26 PM
I'd be more worried about Crouch injuring his knees off the "This is Anfield" sign if I were you.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:29 PM
Hang on lets not talk about bandwagon fans without mentioning those Chelsea fans were United fans. They were the same United fans who had reversable jerseys in the early 90's to support their Premiership heroes, Leeds.
By Simon Burke, at 3:29 PM
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:32 PM
Is that the same crouch that nodded one past vds in the FA cup?
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 3:33 PM
Ya. I think he is 6' 6". Officially thats just a few inches taller than Reina.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:37 PM
Got to love comments from someone whose name only indicates his dislike of another club. Are you actually a supporter of someone or do you just hate Man United?
By Patrick Devitt, at 3:58 PM
Only a yank would ask me that.Otherwise you'd probably know I support Liverpool.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:07 PM
Nope - despite my terrible yank heritage I recognize Man U haters are often Liverpool supporters, yet just a little sad you identify yourself as such ;-)
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:15 PM
I thought it was quite amusing actually. Sorry, is having a sense of humour against the law in America?
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:19 PM
No, so long as its congruent with biblical teachings.YES BURKIE.CONRUENT.C-O-N-G-R-U-E-N-T
By Rich Hughes, at 4:20 PM
Devitt, do you play for the Kendall over 30's?
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:23 PM
Maybe I need to refind my sense of humor. Sorry to sound so bitter - just thought Henry was much more showing his passion rather than his PMS postgame. Remember England - Argentina?
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:27 PM
Yes, on the Kendall over 30s. Only had a few games in. Aargh. What now mate?
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:29 PM
yeh, owen nothced a couple of great goals in the last few mins to embarass them in a recent friendly.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:31 PM
Thats gas. The two of you are team mates then. Brilliant.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 4:35 PM
Guess I just meant that in a way - despite the "non-englishness" of the current arsenal side - that their determination in the CL final reminded me of the english style of play, and why I would much rather watch the Prem than any other league. It reminded my of the passion England showed in '98 vs the Argies -- that was classic, despite the result.
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:35 PM
suiyhmu - will I see you then on Sunday? Crikey this list is too funny.
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:37 PM
Patrick - are you playing for the Phoenix tomorrow against Kendall B?
By TheBusbyBoy, at 4:38 PM
You might well do if my old legs can stand it.
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:40 PM
Playing together for Kendall Over 30s - its like make-up sex.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 4:43 PM
Bloody hell , this is the 54th comment but I think its priceless that you are 2 team-mates slagging each other off. Knife fight on the coach Sunday. Ian's best years are behind him, i would sell him to the Kells for 3 beers and a barmat.
By Simon Burke, at 4:44 PM
Yes, I heard you wear makeup when you have sex.**From Burkie.
By Rich Hughes, at 4:45 PM
That still less disturbing than what I've heard Burkie has worn during sex.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 4:47 PM
Cheers Rich :) Bassad...
By Simon Burke, at 4:47 PM
Just my socks, I am THAT guy.
By Simon Burke, at 4:48 PM
Well it is difficult to know at what point to take them off isnt it Simon? I would suggest right before you put the handcuffs on Rich.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 4:51 PM
I'm done with this blog..... :)
By Stand up if you hate Man u, at 4:53 PM
Lets leave Burke's sex life out of this. Please!Ian -- look for a game winning pass from me on Sunday. Its the least I can try to do.Won't be playing tomorrow against Kendall B, as I am far too old and slow to keep up with either side. But look forward to the game as "manager" and some post-game fun watching Munster in the rugby. We were kind enough to move game back to 8am so that the Irish on both sides can watch this match.
By Patrick Devitt, at 4:54 PM
True story (thankfull not involving burkie) - one of my greast panik moments revolved around 'can't find the keys to the handcuffs'.
By Rich Hughes, at 5:01 PM
COME ON MUNSTER.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,377-2187619,00.htmlAlmost everyone I know at home is gone over.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 5:06 PM
Out of here gents. Its been a pleasure. Enjoy the weekend.Patrick - should see you at the game tomorrrow. I'll be the one being forced to video tape it even though I will be hungover and seeing double.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 5:20 PM
Is Munster a county or what is it you call it in Ireland? We have a guy from Limerick who is mad for this match... says it is like the CL of rugby? Where are you Kendall lot going to watch it? Tommy Doyles?
By Patrick Devitt, at 5:23 PM
OK then John - see you tomorrow!
By Patrick Devitt, at 5:24 PM
Munster is one of the 4 provinces. The 3 others are Leinster, Ulster and Connaught.Its made up of the 6 southern counties - Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary(me), Clare and Waterford.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MunsterLimerick is the epicentre of it rugby-wise. Though the Cork lads might not agree on that were we all not too busy hating Leinster(which contains Dublin)
By TheBusbyBoy, at 8:24 PM
Oh and we are watching it in PJ Ryans in Teale Square.
By TheBusbyBoy, at 3:46 AM
Theres a monster in pyjamas? Probably my girfriend rolling out some other mongrels bed.
By The Magnificent 7, at 12:21 PM
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