Chelsea
Sure the story will be rubbished by the evening paper but allegedley Cole on way to Chelsea for 20 million pounds. Meanwhile, some WestBrom defender is rated at 10MM. They're having a laugh.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=397671&in_page_id=1779&in_a_source=&ct=5
What's interesting is Chelsea letting Duff go for 5MM to Newcastle when a 10MM offer was rejected from another club. Are Chelsea that rich that they might let a player go for less money to a smaller, less threatening club than go to a bigger club at market rates? 5MM for Duff is a snip.
Also, what about Mourinho's new do? He shaved his head to prepare for war. Mourinho appears to be dealing with what Ranieri dealt with: keeping a squad full of world class players happy. I think some enterprising club should make a cheeky bid for SWP such as Fulham. Why not? If they let Duff go for peanuts why not SWP.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=397596&in_page_id=1779
posted by Chris P at
7/26/2006 09:45:00 AM
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Saw a startling stat that out of the 30 or so players Chelsea have bought, they have only sold 7 or 8.
And that Chelsea are getting only 20% back on these players that leave - shocking but then when you
are CHelsea you can do that. It'll ruin football though.
Wenger admits today COle may go - (he will) and no way is Curtis Davies worth 10 million, thats as much as Ruud! We are deserate though, if Cole goes we will be playing Van Persie at Left back and moving Lehmann into the defence at this rate.
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WhatsupWheaton Simon, at 10:07 AM
Left back Armande Traore was man of the match against some muggins of an Austrian team by all reports. I've always thought that if Clichy could stay fit that he'd be as good as Cole ever was anyway and we also have Seb Larsson as well. Youth coming through might have sorted the Cole dilemma.
Now it would be cool to stretch Chelsea until they cough up the 30mil that they were talking about when they tapped him up.
And on the qt, make sure that Barrett never gets to represent another player again in England.
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gooner71, at 3:12 PM
In just a few weeks, Chelsea will have to face the wrath that is Man City! Barton with three today against Port Vale. I'm fired up - wrapped up Micah to a sweet deal as well. Jump on the bandwagon now, suckers!
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GAC, at 6:22 PM
OK, I am desperate so have taken to getting my news the Simon way. The Mirror and Sun always cheer me up with stories about who United might, but probably won't, sign.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=17457801%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=fergie%2deyes%2dmasc%2dman%2d-name_page.html
Come on. Now that Torres seems to be staying at Atletico, put that money(which doesn't really exist) towards Mascherano(who probably wouldn't sign for us). I thought he was absolute quality in the World Cup.
Carrick's valuation seems rediculous. I don't know that much about him but what has he done to warrant a 17 million price tag?
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TheBusbyBoy, at 1:04 AM
Busby,
Carrick was born on English soil. Always adds a quid or two to his valuation within England.
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gooner71, at 8:02 AM
Looks like Wayne Bridge wants away now as well. He is far too talented to be cover. Chelsea are going to end up with maybe 14 world class players and then have to make the numbers in the reserve side with mercenaries. You can't expect top class players to happily be cover.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=397870&in_page_id=1779&in_a_source=
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Chris P, at 9:09 AM
To Gooner's point clearly there is a premium attached to English players relative to French and other players.
Perhaps Rich could run a multivariate analysis using nationality, transfer fee amount / valuation and maybe OPTA stats (admittedly worthless) to attempt to calculate with precision what that premium is.
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Chris P, at 9:12 AM
Chris - if you are going to suggest things like that remember to use a smiley. ;-)
A quid or two I can hand but they are allegedly asking for 17 million.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 11:16 AM
Carrick isnt worth 17 million, thats more than Vieira was - crazy talk. He is worth 10 - I remember when Newcastle tried to sell us Jenas for 20 million - absolute joke.
Listened to a show this weekend on the Beeb and an interviewee talked about how hard Spurs were to notroriously miserly deal with - they buy at bottom dollar and sell at inflated prices - case in point, they tapped up Chimbonda and wont offer more than 3 mill for him. United apparently want Defoe as well and cant afford to pay high for a midfielder as strikers tend to cost more.
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WhatsupWheaton Simon, at 11:47 AM
What a deal Newcaslte got in Duff. 5 million? I assume the story there is that Liverpool and/or Spurs came in with a higher bid but Chelsea did not want to sell to them. Hence the "Thank you Chelsea" speeh from Shepherd.
Would be interested to know if Duff has some kind of trigger clause in his new contract so he can get the hell out of there if things are as bad as they usually are 18 months down the line.
Not too thrilled with the Jermaine Defoe rumours. Again, like Carrick, untested at the highest level but that appears to be what we have to be content with these days.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 1:18 PM
Cheat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/5221122.stm
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TheBusbyBoy, at 1:40 PM
Aye, no matter how much Chelsea ruins our sport, at least we arent in the gutter as much as Cycling is (or athletics) - half the contenders thrown out on the eve of the tour and the winner of it set to be stripped. I watched a fair bit of it this year - total shambles if thats what it comes to.
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WhatsupWheaton Simon, at 1:45 PM
As for Defoe - he is garbage, will do nothing for United and I would leave well alone - too short to be of any trouble against big defences and doesnt have Owen's finishing which a small man would need. Not worth more than 6 million in my opinion. Mascharena would be a great pick, an Argie lad in my office thinks it could happen for you - you desperately need a killer signing this year. Sad to say but Liverpool are the best to contend right now, we have no defence, you have players going out (Ruud) but no-one in and we have no defenders. Luckily Liverpool did pick up Pennant and Bellamy - thats 2 fellas you wouldnt want in any locker room.
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WhatsupWheaton Simon, at 1:48 PM
Ya, if I was playing for Liverpool I'd be cycling my bike to training.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 2:35 PM
Not on the main roads into the training ground if you had any sense of caution.
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gooner71, at 2:47 PM
Looks like Ruud to Real is done:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0727/vannistelrooy1.html?rss
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TheBusbyBoy, at 2:52 PM
Ooh, sounds a done deal - oh well, as a Gooner I am delighted to see the back of him, horrible bloke. But for United there is no denying he was a truly brilliant goalscorer, he joins Stam, Keane, Yorke and the rest of those who Fergie turned on.
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WhatsupWheaton Simon, at 3:05 PM
He wasn't himself the last couple of years though - especially last year. At 30, it might not be the worst thing to get some cash for him rather than riding him to the bitter end like Keane. Problem is, we probably didn't get what we should have for him because the fall-out with Fergie was so public. Will be interested to se ehow he does in Spain. Wish him the best of course.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 3:50 PM
Looks like Carrick is a done deal. I don't buy the 18 million being mentioned though. It probably depends on us winning the League and Champions League for the next 3 years so shouldn't be an issue. If it is confirmed on Friday we might see the details(or maybe not):
http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article1201257.ece
Please let us get Mascherano. As I said before, I don't know that much about Carrick but I am sure he is better than what we currently have in the middle. If you throw in Mascherano and if Ronaldo stays we might survive without a genuine Ruud replace for a while with Rooney, Saha and Smith.
We really need that second midfielder though.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 11:58 PM
You're getting bent over with Carrick. In today's market when Duff goes for $5MM, Bullard for 2.5MM and Ruud went for less than 11MM, there's no way. Apparently, he was also on less than 45K a week because that was the improved offer Jol made.
Tottenham's valuation is beyond cheeky. You're a fool to pay it unless it's in installments and conditioned on results
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Chris P, at 10:13 AM
Duff was an exceptional deal to be fair and I don't think we should use him to gauge the state of the market. He was sold to Newcastle for that price for football reasons. Not a reflection on his talent. I don't think anyone would really claim that, in today's market, Duff is only worth 5 million.
Remember, Heskey went for 5.5 and Andy Johnson for 8 I think.
Likewise Ruud's price was not a reflection of the market. It was another case of United showing their hand to the world. Shevchenko is about the same age with a similar record and went for 30. Madrid and Munich knew they were doing United a favour though so didnt get sucked into a bidding war.
If we paid 15 (never mind 18) we overpaid but it wouldn't be the first time. Combination of Carrick being young and English, the United Tax and everybody knowing that we desperately need midfielders.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 10:26 AM
I am enjoying all of this debate! Carrick, to me, has always been under-rated in terms of his prowess on the pitch. As far as his transfer value, the market is the market and I believe thebusbyboy is correct in saying that United need to "show their hand." Still, Fergie seems to be placing a lot of faith in a combination of aging stalwarts, a scouser hothead, a Portugese villain and a couple of Northern Irish youngsters. Meanwhile, across the tracks, Psycho is building the makings of a dynasty. Richards, Barton locked up to four-year deals...Samaras set to score about 30 goals this campaign...Didi bringing quality and leadership...STAND UP IF YOU LOVE CITY!!!
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GAC, at 10:44 AM
Either sarcasm or you are drinking the City Kool-Aid.
Would you take SWP back?
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Chris P, at 10:49 AM
I think he was on 15K a week at Spurs by the way. Apparently they offered him 45k which I read somewhere would have trebled his wages.
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TheBusbyBoy, at 11:01 AM
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TheBusbyBoy, at 11:50 AM
Actually, for a change, I'm not being sarcastic. No, I wouldn't take SWP back - his 24 million pounds are buying some sweet desserts as he rots with Chelsea.
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GAC, at 2:33 PM
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